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Is the AI scare an exaggeration?

Is the AI scare an exaggeration?

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@sonhouse said
I don't have to prove anything, it is you who are intellectuallylazy, you want everyone else to do your research for you.
You cannot prove anything. You are lazy.


@Metal-Brain said
Has everyone watched too many Terminator movies?
AI is not going to create Skynet. So why is the news media so willing to promote the fear of the extermination of humanity? This is stupid.

Is it because they are afraid some people might create an AI program that threatens the elites? Because all of this talk about regulation will not apply to the AI DARPA is working ...[text shortened]... ans are and the mid term elections are coming up. I have seen campaign ads bringing up data centers.
Many Dems oppose it on environmental grounds.


@AThousandYoung said
Many Dems oppose it on environmental grounds.
Data centers you mean?

I get the electricity, but water is plentiful near the ocean and rivers going into the ocean. And it is not like they are destroying the water. They are just using it for cooling.

But these same democrats wanted people to buy electric vehicles. They needed to be reminded that most of it was generated by burning fossil fuels and now they need reminding that some of it is generated with nuclear.......which uses water to make steam.

Do dems think about these things? do they oppose nuclear power on environmental grounds? Electric cars on environmental grounds?


@sonhouse said
Tell me what is your definition of "progress"
Sure. By progress, I mean the ongoing advancement of human knowledge, technology, science, and our ability to solveproblems that previous generations couldn’t.
Progress is how we went from horse-drawn carriages to automobiles, from propeller planes to jets, from landlines to smartphones, and from wondering about the stars to exploring space.
It’s the process of discovering what’s possible and finding ways to make it happen.
You know nothing of these subjects, so I do not expect a lucid answer.
I answered your question. Tell everyone that average Joe always answers questions. One of these fairies called me a straw man tonight, I don’t even know what a straw man is… should I look it up?


@Metal-Brain said
Data centers you mean?

I get the electricity, but water is plentiful near the ocean and rivers going into the ocean. And it is not like they are destroying the water. They are just using it for cooling.

But these same democrats wanted people to buy electric vehicles. They needed to be reminded that most of it was generated by burning fossil fuels and now they need ...[text shortened]... ings? do they oppose nuclear power on environmental grounds? Electric cars on environmental grounds?
Data centers are deliberately in or near cities and get their water from the same plumbing system the rest of the city does.

I believe the water in a nuclear power plant is trapped in an airtight system like the freon in a refrigerator, not just being allowed to evaporate into the atmosphere.

I don't know these people well enough to cross reference these ideas but I get a lot of guilt trips from the kids at the liberal high school I teach at whenever they detect that I used AI.


@AThousandYoung said
Data centers are deliberately in or near cities and get their water from the same plumbing system the rest of the city does.

I believe the water in a nuclear power plant is trapped in an airtight system like the freon in a refrigerator, not just being allowed to evaporate into the atmosphere.

I don't know these people well enough to cross reference these ideas ...[text shortened]... guilt trips from the kids at the liberal high school I teach at whenever they detect that I used AI.
Have you heard of cooling towers?


@AverageJoe1 said
Sure. By progress, I mean the ongoing advancement of human knowledge, technology, science, and our ability to solveproblems that previous generations couldn’t.
Progress is how we went from horse-drawn carriages to automobiles, from propeller planes to jets, from landlines to smartphones, and from wondering about the stars to exploring space.
It’s the process of discove ...[text shortened]... e fairies called me a straw man tonight, I don’t even know what a straw man is… should I look it up?
In other words all physical stuff, forget the part where humans have to fkking GROW UP and be civilized, I would count that a hundred times more important than the crap we come up with now, like we are living on the deaths of trillions of formerly living creatures now turned into oil but that is not an infinite resource but I bet that kind of thinking never occured to you because you want a MUCH better can opener.


@Metal-Brain said
You cannot prove anything. You are lazy.
Here is the REAL differnce. I KNOW WHAT I READ, YOU are too fking STUPID AND LAZY to do ANYTHING ON YOUR OWN, you want all information to come from anywone you demand it from so you can hang out in your moms basement.


@sonhouse said
Here is the REAL differnce. I KNOW WHAT I READ, YOU are too fking STUPID AND LAZY to do ANYTHING ON YOUR OWN, you want all information to come from anywone you demand it from so you can hang out in your moms basement.
You have learned more from me than I have ever learned from you and you know it.


@Metal-Brain said
You have learned more from me than I have ever learned from you and you know it.
What a joker.


@sonhouse

Look what happens when you say AI is not going to kill us all.
Bill Gates didn't like that.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/nvidia-slides-jensens-affair-suspected-chinese-spy-beijing-denies-claims


@Metal-Brain said
@sonhouse

Look what happens when you say AI is not going to kill us all.
Bill Gates didn't like that.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/nvidia-slides-jensens-affair-suspected-chinese-spy-beijing-denies-claims
You are talking nonsense, I didn't say AI would kill us, it can't erase the whole human race but if it was more intelligent than any human and I mean ALL humans including all the genius on Earth, they can screw up our civilization in ways you can't even imagine. And that is not me saying we are totally screwed but a new kid is on the block and it might be a savior or in might be a devil with a goal to kill humanity and I have no idea which way it will fly.


@sonhouse said
You are talking nonsense, I didn't say AI would kill us, it can't erase the whole human race but if it was more intelligent than any human and I mean ALL humans including all the genius on Earth, they can screw up our civilization in ways you can't even imagine. And that is not me saying we are totally screwed but a new kid is on the block and it might be a savior or in might be a devil with a goal to kill humanity and I have no idea which way it will fly.
You are silly. All of your fear of AI is based anything smarter than you.
Why do you think AI will develop a superiority complex and decide we are obsolete? Because people are that way?

AI has no malicious intent unless it is programmed to. It is not capable of feeling superior. All of your fear of AI is based on the assumption that AI thinks like people. What you need to fear is what people will use AI for.

But if you really think AI will decide it is superior than you and want you dead disconnect from AI or die. Reverse the trend to protect us all from the AI bogeyman. Does that make sense to you? Nobody is forcing you to buy a smart TV. That is all up to you.

AI can only be a problem if people keep connecting everything to the internet.
Anything connected to the internet can be hacked.


@Metal-Brain said
You are silly. All of your fear of AI is based anything smarter than you.
Why do you think AI will develop a superiority complex and decide we are obsolete? Because people are that way?

AI has no malicious intent unless it is programmed to. It is not capable of feeling superior. All of your fear of AI is based on the assumption that AI thinks like people. What you n ...[text shortened]... ople keep connecting everything to the internet.
Anything connected to the internet can be hacked.
Already rogue AI has attacked HUMAN companies with cyber attacks they did not see coming. You are so naive you are unable to understand what is going on and how close AI is to above human intelligence and already AI math has solved hundreds of known math problems humans have been trying to solve for a hundred years and mathemticians are in shock about it.


@sonhouse said
Already rogue AI has attacked HUMAN companies with cyber attacks they did not see coming. You are so naive you are unable to understand what is going on and how close AI is to above human intelligence and already AI math has solved hundreds of known math problems humans have been trying to solve for a hundred years and mathemticians are in shock about it.
But you do not understand why and you never ask why. So I am asking you. Why did AI "decide" to hack something it did not have to hack? And if it did have a reason to hack was was that reason?

What was the task AI was asked to accomplish that led to the hack you were alarmed by? How did the hack help accomplish that task?