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Is there a stalemate can be claimed after 3 times same position is repeated in a game? Will this automatically appear as an option to click in my game, if player is determined to repeat the same move?

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@Chessgrappler010
Yes, if the circumstances creating a stalemate have occurred there will be an option to claim it.

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@AlanTal
Thanks Alan, it is my move now, so I should claim draw instead of moving? Is that how it works?


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@AlanTal
Thanks Alan, it is my move now, so I should claim draw instead of moving? Is that how it works?
Press claim draw then move. If it's a legal draw ie 3 move repetition then the game will be over and a draw awarded. If it's not then the game will continue.

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@fourfivesix
OK, thanks for that.

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@Chessgrappler010
Here's a longer and boring answer:

Just to clarify, a stalemate is only one very specific condition, where the person who is to move is not in check, but at the same time they can not move because there is no legal move possible for them to make.

Therefore the game is frozen and can not continue to be played. But since neither player has won or lost, the game is a "stalemate" and is 'automatically' ended as a draw.

When that specific situation is present, you will not have to claim a draw or stalemate here, since the RHP software will recognize that it is a stalemate, and the game will be automatically ended.

As far as I know, all other draw situations must be claimed, and after claiming a draw, a move must also be made. The software will then first determine if the current position and move sequence meets the criteria to declare a draw. If so, the draw will be declared and the game ended. If the conditions for a draw are not satisfied, the last submitted move will be made and the game will continue.

In other words, if you think the current situation should be a drawn game for any reason, claim a draw and make a move. You can do that at any time when you move if you are not sure. No harm, no foul. Just go ahead and make the claim before you move. You will see a message about the claim.

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@mwmiller
Hey thanks, yes I played the move, while I claimed a draw, and the game has ended.

Is that not called Stalemate?

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@Chessgrappler010
Only one situation is called a 'stalemate'. It is as I described it in my previous post.
It is scored as a draw, but there are other situations that are also scored as a draw.

The others will need to be claimed, and if not claimed the game goes on.

A stalemate is a unique single situation where the game is dead because the player who is supposed to make a move does not have any legal move that can be made, but also is not in check.

So in your game, if you were able to make a move after you claimed a draw, that was not "stalemate". But it still was a draw. There are several situations that can be claimed as a draw.

Try using the internet to define "stalemate" if you are having trouble with my description. Or maybe even better, define "Draws in Chess" That will give you a better idea of all the different draws! 🙂

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@mwmiller
I guess what was really on my mind, Capablanca predicted there would be a lot of stalemates at high level, on 8x8 board with "standard" pieces, so he resurrected previous pieces, Centaur and Champion (Knight/Bishop and Knight/Rook) which had already been in chess game centuries earlier (Carerra), on 10x8 board, and he saw this as a game for high level players, which would be less prone to stalemate, as he put it. I don't have the actual quotation in front of me, and if it was not stated in English, then a translation might be either stalemate or draw, but my assumption is that he was referring to both in his statement.

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@mwmiller thanks, well it was "Draw Death" which Capablanca predicted (according to AI) , which was exactly what the player here in my game subjected me to, in my second game ever played here on RHP. As I stated to my opponent on the 2nd last move in my last game, I have never once seen a "stalemate" (I meant "Draw" ) on any Capablanca game on 10x8 board.

AI Overview José Raúl Capablanca predicted that high-level chess would suffer from a "draw death" (too many drawn games, rather than stalemates) due to players exhaustively memorizing openings and mastering defense, so he proposed expanding the board and adding Pietro Carrera's compound pieces.

Capablanca's Concerns and Solution

The Problem:
Capablanca worried that masters would completely figure out standard 64-square chess, making decisive results rare.

The Board:

He recommended a larger 10x8 or 10x10 board to increase the complexity and space for maneuvering.

The Pieces: He reintroduced historical compound pieces originally discussed by 17th-century priest Pietro Carrera: the Centaur (combining bishop and knight moves, often called the archbishop) and the Champion (combining rook and knight moves, often called the chancellor).


@Chessgrappler010


Third repetition of position
Draw Claimed

your game was threefold so you claim a draw

In chess, the threefold repetition rule states that a player may claim a draw if the same position occurs three times during the game. The rule is also known as repetition of position and, in the USCF rules, as triple occurrence of position.[1] Two positions are by definition "the same" if pieces of the same type and color occupy the same squares, the same player has the move, the remaining castling rights are the same and the possibility to capture en passant is the same. The repeated positions need not occur in succession.

The game is not automatically drawn if a position occurs for the third time – one of the players, on their turn, must claim the draw with the arbiter. The claim must be made either before making the move which will produce the third repetition, or after the opponent has made a move producing a third repetition. By contrast, the fivefold repetition rule requires the arbiter to intervene and declare the game drawn if the same position occurs five times, needing no claim by the players.

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you know when snookers players have a re rack, that's like stalemate