@KellyJay saidYou went from arguing (without evidence) that only "hours" exist for these compounds, to changing goalposts (after being shown you were wrong) to arguing "well it's too complicated to be chance".
Again, it is not a matter of the chemicals being available; no one debates that. It is the information found in the sequential arrangement of material, which is not determined by a letter but by the coded sequence. You can mix letters all day long; they will never fall out, so they write a book. How long is a DNA strand in each cell? It is about getting the right chemica ...[text shortened]... ance, over and over again, to get to what, 3.2 billion base pairs, and you’re happy seeing a letter?
On top of providing no evidence or source for anything you've ever said in entire history on this forum.
Evidence exists, like in the OP (and elsewhere), that life could've arisen by chance. That's a start, and far more than anything you have for how life began.
@vivify saidNo, I went from telling you about reality, and you’re trying to ignore it without giving a good reason why. I could post world-class chemists all saying the same thing, and you’d find a way to ignore what they say to find a flaw in them. You have your fingers in your ears, going no, no, no, without once trying to understand what is being said to you.
You went from arguing (without evidence) that only "hours" exist for these compounds, to changing goalposts (after being shown you were wrong) to arguing "well it's too complicated to be chance".
On top of providing no evidence or source for anything you've ever said in entire history on this forum.
Evidence exists, like in the OP (and elsewhere), that life could've arisen by chance. That's a start, and far more than anything you have for how life began.
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@KellyJay saidI meant a website with an article article or scientific paper, so we can better analyze their words. An article or paper allows us to copy and paste what is being discussed and is better for forums.
Here is a short clip about the issues.
https://youtu.be/yKlSD20qyck
I thought you’d enjoy a question-and-answer session.
https://youtu.be/JjljpWgEDH8
A discussion between Doctors
https://youtu.be/noj4phMT9OE
Do you have such a link instead of just a video of someone's opinion?
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@vivify saidThe issue is covalent bonding and chirality.
With those 5 genetic "letters" (A, G, C, T and U) you can form the following:
cat
cut
act
gut
tag
tug
cactus
tact
tutu
caucus
taut
gag
And other words. Dumbed out of a scrabble box there's a chance some of these letters could be formed.
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@KellyJay saidIn the meantime (while you get an actual article or scientific paper), the question-and-answer session you posted, at the 14:10 minute mark, he says "we don't have the starting materials."
Here is a short clip about the issues.
https://youtu.be/yKlSD20qyck
I thought you’d enjoy a question-and-answer session.
https://youtu.be/JjljpWgEDH8
A discussion between Doctors
https://youtu.be/noj4phMT9OE
That claim has been proven wrong with the article in the OP.
@vivify saidDo you know what he is referring to in life? This goes back to what I have been saying to you.
In the meantime (while you get an actual article or scientific paper), the question-and-answer session you posted, at the 14:10 minute mark, he says "we don't have the starting materials."
That claim has been proven wrong with the article in the OP.
@vivify saidWorld-class Chemist, it isn’t my fault when he speaks, it is over your head.
I meant a website with an article article or scientific paper, so we can better analyze their words. An article or paper allows us to copy and paste what is being discussed and is better for forums.
Do you have such a link instead of just a video of someone's opinion?
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@KellyJay saidYour question is unclear. Please clarify.
Do you know what he is referring to in life? This goes back to what I have been saying to you.
Also, the guy in your video makes logical fallacies. For example, he implies that because scientists haven't yet shown something, it's evidence it didn't happen. This is quite false.
Einstein General Relativity predicted gravitational waves back in 1916. This wasn't proven until almost 100 years later in 2015. By your guy's logic, gravitational waves were false for decades because they weren't proven yet.
As already mentioned, his claim that we "don't have the starting materials" has been proven false, like in the OP.
@KellyJay saidYou still haven't provided a source for this specific claim after multiple requests.
That sequence, even if it moves towards life, is on the clock to take the next step before it degrades; that is not a billion-year waiting period, but hours.
Just admit you have no basis for claims.
@vivify saidWhat do you think needs proof, that it requires a mind to set up a sequential arrangement for informational instructions? Can you show anything whatsoever beyond a mind that can write instructions?
You still haven't provided a source for this specific claim after multiple requests.
Just admit you have no basis for claims.