@YEAH-BOY saidYes, because the Russian oilfields were owned by the Nobel and Rothschild families who lost their assets with October Revolution. “In summer 1918, Mr. Nobel flew from the Soviets and begged the German emperor Wilhelm to help him to conquer his assets back”, according to the historian Dietrich Eichholtz.
That's why the robber barons pumped tons of money into Germany during WW2. They were deathly afraid of communism. They were making from both sides.Hell Standard Oil supplied Hitler with oil and fuel for their war machine. They also supplied the gas for their gas chambers.
https://www.gabyweber.com/dwnld/artikel/eichmann/ingles/secret_pact_standard_oil.pdf
There is a lot of history that is suppressed from us by the international banking cartel.
@sonhouse saidCommunism has never existed in practice. That means they were socialist, not communist countries. And people die in capitalist countries too. Like Nazi Germany. Rwanda's genocide was the indirect result of imperialism because they created a class superiority system to control them all.
So tell me how many people died in these so called commie countries? I think something like FIFTY MILLION. Russia and China had their pogroms when people were not commie ENOUGH so they KILLLED them. That was their governments killing their own people.
So we are starting down the same path, you protest, you even LOOK crosseyed at an ICE agent and they have legal right to ki ...[text shortened]... the street or fire right into their cars. How many more will die before we know too many have died?
@Metal-Brain saidYet here you are, tilting at windmills. When will you figure out the very best governing system can be uprooted directly into dictatorships because humans are involved and they ALWAYS attempt to gain power, you will NEVER escape that.
Communism has never existed in practice. That means they were socialist, not communist countries. And people die in capitalist countries too. Like Nazi Germany. Rwanda's genocide was the indirect result of imperialism because they created a class superiority system to control them all.
@sonhouse saidWhich political governing system is killing people is irrelevant. Our government killed a lot of school girls in Iran. All empires kill people. Look at a history book sometime.
Yet here you are, tilting at windmills. When will you figure out the very best governing system can be uprooted directly into dictatorships because humans are involved and they ALWAYS attempt to gain power, you will NEVER escape that.
@Metal-Brain saidThe only way communism would work is if robots ran the world and were benign and actually have the plights of humanity at hand so when disputes happen there will be nobody to jump to the top just because they have charisma and such but are really evil inside like Trump. Humans starting a communist system will fk if up EVERY TIME because humans are not capable of governing in a communist system because EVERY TIME someone pumps up to the top and inevitably a real bastard.
Which political governing system is killing people is irrelevant. Our government killed a lot of school girls in Iran. All empires kill people. Look at a history book sometime.
@sonhouse saidSo Marx was crazy at worst or an idiot at best?
The only way communism would work is if robots ran the world and were benign and actually have the plights of humanity at hand so when disputes happen there will be nobody to jump to the top just because they have charisma and such but are really evil inside like Trump. Humans starting a communist system will fk if up EVERY TIME because humans are not capable of governing in a communist system because EVERY TIME someone pumps up to the top and inevitably a real bastard.
Have you read Marx?
@Metal-Brain saidAre you REALLY that STUPID? It was not the IDEALISTS who caused the problems it was the dudes who saw a way to make themselves top dog at the expense of EVERYONE.
So Marx was crazy at worst or an idiot at best?
Have you read Marx?
Get FKING SERIOUS.
@sonhouse saidHave you read Marx?
Are you REALLY that STUPID? It was not the IDEALISTS who caused the problems it was the dudes who saw a way to make themselves top dog at the expense of EVERYONE.
Get FKING SERIOUS.
Of course not. You have no idea why Marx is supposed to be bad. You are worse than AJ. You heard a rumor it was bad so you believed it. You cannot even tell me why it is bad. You cannot even tell me communism exists because it does not.
Do you know the difference between communism and socialism? I ask because I do not think you do. What do you think the USSR stands for? There is no C in the USSR. Get a clue.
@Metal-Brain saidYou can read all the fking idealists you want. It is not the IDEALIEST who fuks things up, it is people who are power mad, THEY will EVERYTINE screw up your wonderful commie idea. So tell me of a single pure communist country with zero capitalist desires. Good luck. I expect you will point out some Algonguin tribe or some such.
Have you read Marx?
Of course not. You have no idea why Marx is supposed to be bad. You are worse than AJ. You heard a rumor it was bad so you believed it. You cannot even tell me why it is bad. You cannot even tell me communism exists because it does not.
Do you know the difference between communism and socialism? I ask because I do not think you do. What do you think the USSR stands for? There is no C in the USSR. Get a clue.
@Metal-Brain saidCCCP has a C
Have you read Marx?
Of course not. You have no idea why Marx is supposed to be bad. You are worse than AJ. You heard a rumor it was bad so you believed it. You cannot even tell me why it is bad. You cannot even tell me communism exists because it does not.
Do you know the difference between communism and socialism? I ask because I do not think you do. What do you think the USSR stands for? There is no C in the USSR. Get a clue.
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@Metal-Brain saidHey, sonhouse....let us leave our USA homes and visit a commie country, and come back to regale our fellow posters, and MB, who will not invite to join us on the trip, with what he have learned.
Have you read Marx?
Of course not. You have no idea why Marx is supposed to be bad. You are worse than AJ. You heard a rumor it was bad so you believed it. You cannot even tell me why it is bad. You cannot even tell me communism exists because it does not.
Do you know the difference between communism and socialism? I ask because I do not think you do. What do you think the USSR stands for? There is no C in the USSR. Get a clue.
Like, Basic shortages of basic necessities like food, medicine and fuel, and even drinking water.\, a striking level of physical deterioration. The gap between free healthcare and actually receiving good medical care.(omg, cud that happen in the usa), the total lack of political freedom......and for Stilhouse, no way to exhibit and MAKE MONEY with his musical creativity,.....and no tech stuff upon which to mix and record his stuff!!!!!!
I will meet you at the airport, I do fly first class. Will my return trip from Cuba be first class? Will they have lobster fricasse' on our return flight? Can I bring home stuff that they make? What do they make? Last time I was there, there was nothing to bring back. I did take violin strings over for their all- girl violin ensembles at a decrepit school , and they loved them, to say the least. They could give me nothing in return.
I asked our guide outside, ....'it is so neat and clean here, no trash on the street.." His answer??? "you have not been listening to me. They have nothing to throw away.' True story.