@vivify saidWhat an idiot. Jesus says he came to fulful and accomplish what he was sent to do.
The Christian God commands killing infants and breast-fed children. You mean those evil people?
The Old Testament is an intrinsic part of Christianity. Jesus' words:
Matthew 5:17 - “Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.
The writings of Moses describing what events took place in Canaan, are not laws to be followed.
@vivify saidYou must be some kind of dunce. It has nothing to do with GDP. It has to do with the amount of Muslims who have entered your country.
If Europe falls, the country standing certainly won't be Poland, which ranks 21st in Europe in terms of per-capita GDP:
https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2025/19/gdp-per-capita-netherlands-fourth-in-eu-in-2024
All across Europe the number is some 50,000,000 over the last 25 years.
The number of Muslim immigrants into Poland is ZERO.
Poland is safe from Islam.
@Rajk999 saidJesus continues in Matthew 5:19:
What an idiot. Jesus says he came to fulful and accomplish what he was sent to do.
The writings of Moses describing what events took place in Canaan, are not laws to be followed.
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Clearly he was big on following the laws of Moses.
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@Rajk999 saidYour post starts off "when Europe falls". What do you mean by "fall" if not lack of viability as a country? Cuz Poland wouldn't be the one standing if Europe as it is now ceases to be.
You must be some kind of dunce. It has nothing to do with GDP. It has to do with the amount of Muslims who have entered your country.
All across Europe the number is some 50,000,000 over the last 25 years.
The number of Muslim immigrants into Poland is ZERO.
Poland is safe from Islam.
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@AverageJoe1 saidMaybe things get lost in translation in how we speak and think about healthcare in our respective countries. these are the issues i found with your post.
Do I distort or exaggerate the statement or argument of an opponent in a debate. ? Would you point it out. If j do, I will admit it. A general characteristic of a solid debater. Tell me.
Tell us.
"health care is not mearly a visit to the gp or hospital bed" you.
you changed the language to indicate i was speaking specifically about an individuals experience of a visit to the gp or being in a hospital bed. you then went on to argue based on your changing of my wording excluded "prevention, diagnosis, advanced treatment, specialist care, tech, innovation and patient outcomes". these are all things that happen in a GP or hospital (in the uk).
my actual statement was "type of, value of and quality of service at GPs and Hospitals" this is not a specific statement to an individuals experience. it includes all things that happen and take place in gps and hospitals which includes all the things you argued i had excluded. also known as strawmaning.
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@Rajk999 saidso you pick vivify up for missing the full context behind bible quotes while leaving the context out of quran quotes.
I have posted these constantly many times. Here it is again .. several passages about killing Jews, Infidels, Christians, Apostates. Instructions to behead, terrorize, rape and destroy them.
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(A) Quran 2:191 “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.”
(B) Quran 3:28 “Muslims must not take infidels as friends”
(C) Quran 3: ...[text shortened]... anker for peace with infidels; behead them when you catch them.
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@vivify saidDunce ... Google the Law of Moses and see if there are any instructions to and kill anyone.
Jesus continues in Matthew 5:19:
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Clearly he was big on following the laws of Moses.
@Sprogladog saidKindly explain the context then. See how I did it?
so you pick vivify up for missing the full context behind bible quotes while leaving the context out of quran quotes.
I explained. You try it.
Explain instead of just asserting.
In any case, here's the thing. The Muslims know the context, and its their Holy Book and they are the ones going around killing people, Jews, Christians and Infidels etc. So they are the ones who know the context and following it.
Are there Christians going around killing Amalekites?
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okay ill hive you an example - 5.33 you say "maim and crucify the infedels if they criticise islam"
the actuall passage is - "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief in the land is death, crucifixion, cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, or exile from the land. This ˹penalty˺ is a disgrace for them in this world, and they will suffer a tremendous punishment in the Hereafter."
as you can see the context is about those who wage war on islam. go do your own research if you care, my guess is your agenda is more important than facts.
@Sprogladog saidIs there an example of someone or a country waging war 'against Allah and His Messenger' ? I cannot seem to think of any. Yet for the last 1400 years Muslims have been fighting against Jews, Hindus, Bhudists and Christians. Islam is the aggressor. The Crusades was the end result of Islam deciding they want Jerusalem and took it over forcefully, killing hundreds of Christians. Nothing has changed.
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okay ill hive you an example - 5.33 you say "maim and crucify the infedels if they criticise islam"
the actuall passage is - "Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and spread mischief in the land is death, crucifixion, cutting off their hands and feet on opposite sides, or exile from the land. This ˹penalty˺ is a disgra ...[text shortened]... on islam. go do your own research if you care, my guess is your agenda is more important than facts.
In any case even if in that passage, the instruction was only to respond/defend against aggression, there are many open-ended passages to kill others, and Muslims are doing exactly that.
Surah 9, the war chapter instructs Muslims to go out and kill Jews and Christians until they are either dead or converted.