@Metal-Brain saidErm, no. - . While the specific modern English term "non-binary" is relatively recent, the experience of living outside strict male or female gender categories is a well-documented part of diverse cultures and eras worldwide.
This is a new thing and it is trendy.
Historical, legal, and religious texts from ancient Mesopotamia, ancient Greece, and early rabbinic literature in Judaism reference roles and bodies that did not fit a simple binary model.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidThat is silly. Straight people are not non binary.
Erm, because non binary isn't the same as being gay.
'Non-binary does not mean gay. Non-binary describes a person's gender identity (not being strictly a man or a woman), while gay describes a person's sexual orientation (who they are attracted to). A non-binary person can have any sexual orientation, including straight, gay, bi, or asexual.'
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@AverageJoe1 saidDoes this also explain why you never get the name right of someone you don't like?
One simply make the distinction between a literal demand and a social expectation to affirm or endorse. Are you daft?
I don’t mean that someone literally walks up to me and says, ‘You must approve of me.’ I mean the demand is implicit in the expectation that I must affirm their identity, use particular terminology, celebrate their public displays, and accept criticism ...[text shortened]... merely expressing disapproval considered intolerant? Why isn’t disagreement itself allowed? Geez
Show some respect and let them be who they want to be.
And for God's sake, get their name right and get their nationality right. "Why be obtuse?"
And it's not your disagreement that's not allowed. It's your unmitigated rudeness to not even treat them like a human. If you disagree, keep it to yourself. You do not HAVE to be rude to people you don't like.
@Metal-Brain saidYou're not exactly an expert on this.
That is silly. Straight people are not non binary.
@AverageJoe1 said"Your first paragraph has nothing to do with the issue, and is absolutely meaningless in that regard."
Your first paragraph has nothing to do with the issue, and is absolutely meaningless in that regard. Let’s critique the nextthe paragraph.
Am I seeing things?
Your argument jumps from “transgender people exist” to “therefore a man can become a woman,” which doesn’t logically follow.
I haven’t denied that transgender people exist. Of course they exist. What I deny i ...[text shortened]... That’s the actual point I’ve been making all along.
You are straw man, grabbing left and right
His first paragraph IS the issue.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke saidThat is called bisexual. We don't need a confusing term to make things more complicated than they need to be. I doubt you really believe in this BS term. You can defend bi people without defending a silly term nobody needs.
Erm, no. - . While the specific modern English term "non-binary" is relatively recent, the experience of living outside strict male or female gender categories is a well-documented part of diverse cultures and eras worldwide.
Historical, legal, and religious texts from ancient Mesopotamia, ancient Greece, and early rabbinic literature in Judaism reference roles and bodies that did not fit a simple binary model.
I have no problem with gay or bi people. It is the term I have a problem with. It is being used for dishonest purposes.
@Suzianne saidYou are as difficult, as you will not agree that a man cannot become a woman. Thaf is an impossibole starting point when discussing same, is it not? What is a straight conservative to say?
"Your first paragraph has nothing to do with the issue, and is absolutely meaningless in that regard."
His first paragraph IS the issue.
@Metal-Brain saidMoron.
As a straight person I believe I am an expert. Straight people have no need to identify as binary unless they are dishonest people looking for attention.
No, sorry, I meant Ignorant Moron.
@Suzianne saidLet us await your response to my request that you establish your position on a man becoming a woman. Hopefully not a lot of emotional fluff, just common sense. I will refrain from asking an MD if a man can become a woman until you enlighten us. Hurry, as I play golf with him at 1:10 today.
Moron.
No, sorry, I meant Ignorant Moron.
@Metal-Brain saidThat's just wrong. A bisexual is someone who is sexually attracted to both men and women.
That is called bisexual. We don't need a confusing term to make things more complicated than they need to be. I doubt you really believe in this BS term. You can defend bi people without defending a silly term nobody needs.
I have no problem with gay or bi people. It is the term I have a problem with. It is being used for dishonest purposes.
A non-binary "refers to a person whose gender identity does not comfortably fit in the Male/Female binary".
https://aghope.org/en/blog/[WORD TOO LONG]
Sexual attraction and gender identity are two distinct concepts.