@KellyJay saidSaying it and having a jury accept it after viewing all the evidence is two different things. I gave you the facts of how rare such a defense is successful (it actually wasn't in this case; there was a hung jury, not an acquittal).
Everyone who kills could say they were insane; that should not excuse murder.
I'm sure you didn't notice that Western legal systems have included an insanity defense for hundreds of years; it's hardly some new and novel concept.
@no1marauder saidMy response is the same.
Saying it and having a jury accept it after viewing all the evidence is two different things. I gave you the facts of how rare such a defense is successful (it actually wasn't in this case; there was a hung jury, not an acquittal).
I'm sure you didn't notice that Western legal systems have included an insanity defense for hundreds of years; it's hardly some new and novel concept.
Everyone who kills could say they were insane; that should not excuse murder.
@Suzianne saidActually, it’s not just my opinion; all of ours are. There is one truth and reality alone that constrains it, not our opinions, so all of our opinions are flawed. You may think yours is right, but it is as flawed as mine when it comes to the common reality we all live in.
I'd have to agree, but I doubt we'd agree on whose moral compass was ajar.
@Sprogladog saidOnce identified, it should be acted on, not left to wait until a crime against another forces us to act.
They could say it. luckily for us just saying it isnt enough. severe mental illness is very difficult to fake.
@no1marauder saidThats why there is vigilante justice. The courts let the killer live, and the justice is served by someone else.
I'm sure you didn't notice that Western legal systems have included an insanity defense for hundreds of years; it's hardly some new and novel concept.
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@Rajk999 saidYour sense of "justice" is perverse.
Thats why there is vigilante justice. The courts let the killer live, and the justice is served by someone else.
There is nothing "just" about punishing someone who doesn't understand they did anything wrong.
Vigilantes, who are usually family or close friends or associates of the victims, are hardly impartial arbitrators. They can easily err and kill complete innocents.
@no1marauder saidIf a perfect forthright citizen, maybe a virger at his church and volunteers at a food kitchen, kills his kids…………….we can all agree, right here on the Forum, that he must be insane. He is insane, kills kids, no argument.
Saying it and having a jury accept it after viewing all the evidence is two different things. I gave you the facts of how rare such a defense is successful (it actually wasn't in this case; there was a hung jury, not an acquittal).
I'm sure you didn't notice that Western legal systems have included an insanity defense for hundreds of years; it's hardly some new and novel concept.
Insane, Marauder.
So he, pleading insaaaannnnnity, and thousands of other murdering slime doing the same as they too are insane, , will not be duly punished….for having killed his children
Don’t respond ‘it’s the law’ because debates, such as this between a few people sitting at Starbucks, has to do with what that person thinks. I think the man should be executed and you will say, I guess, that you think he should not be executed. How can that be?
@AverageJoe1 saidI agree with the law in this case.
If a perfect forthright citizen, maybe a virger at his church and volunteers at a food kitchen, kills his kids…………….we can all agree, right here on the Forum, that he must be insane. He is insane, kills kids, no argument.
Insane, Marauder.
So he, pleading insaaaannnnnity, and thousands of other murdering slime doing the same as they too are insane, , will not be d ...[text shortened]... be executed and you will say, I guess, that you think he should not be executed. How can that be?
Not with a bunch of babbling idiots at a Starbucks (which I don't go to unless there's nothing similar open at an airport).
@AverageJoe1 saidI wonder how these liberals would feel if one of these freaks killed all their children then got away with it?
If a perfect forthright citizen, maybe a virger at his church and volunteers at a food kitchen, kills his kids…………….we can all agree, right here on the Forum, that he must be insane. He is insane, kills kids, no argument.
Insane, Marauder.
So he, pleading insaaaannnnnity, and thousands of other murdering slime doing the same as they too are insane, , will not be d ...[text shortened]... be executed and you will say, I guess, that you think he should not be executed. How can that be?
@Rajk999 saidMassachusetts uses what's called the "McHoul Standard":
Thats why there is vigilante justice. The courts let the killer live, and the justice is served by someone else.
"In Massachusetts, the defense may apply when a person’s mental condition prevents them from understanding or controlling their actions at the time of an alleged crime, including during an episode of psychosis."
https://news.northeastern.edu/2026/07/31/daniel-medwed-lindsay-clancy-trial/
Explain to me the "justice" of punishing someone who cannot understand or control their actions.